Chats with Tompkin


Transcripts July 27, 2016

Chat #53 – Spensar

Spensar and Tompkin

7-27-16 Brisbane

Tompkin: Good day, my friend. How are you?

Jason: Hi, Tompkin.

Tompkin: How are things at your end of the world?

Jason: Very good. I’m excited to talk to you.

Tompkin: As am I, as am I.

Jason: I wanted to start out with what would your … What are the best type of questions from your perspective for me to ask you?

Tompkin: HaHa! That is the first time anyone has ever asked that one. Let me say that if you want to expedite your session, yes or no questions come very quickly and we can zoom through many questions if you have an overwhelming amount of information you wished to plow through. As far as topics, that is entirely up to you, my friend. I do specialize in different areas than Elias and you will find my material is delivered in a different manner for my focus and intent is not on … “no distortion”. It is more on interaction, fun and play and reminding people to be more lighthearted and less discouraged with the shift. We can go in any direction that you like. I am able to access and process a lot of information from people’s adolescence and childhood if there are areas like that are what you would call……. remaining baggage.

Jason: Thank you. That’s very helpful. In fact, I would love to introduce more play and fun into my life.

Tompkin: As should everyone, as should everyone for time is speeding up, is it not? We all need to be more focused in the moment and that focus gets quite intensely pronounced when you’re having fun.

Jason: One of the topics that I talked to Elias about a lot is being present and I was wondering if you had any tips on being present.

Tompkin: Being present does not require effort. It merely requires paying attention in the moment to what you are actually doing. This sounds so simple and yet for many it is very difficult. For doing encompasses a great many things. It encompasses what you are physically participating in. It involves where your attention is and whether you are daydreaming while you are actually completing a physical act. Also, where you are putting your energy or drive or excitement.

This is why play is so effective and engaging activities that you enjoy are important for when you are enjoying yourself, you actually get fully immersed in the moment, totally. The body, the mind, and you engaged it on an energetic level. You actually are processing faster than your aware of so you’re energetically processing the moment even before your brain has time to participate, if you will.

Jason: How do you move into that enjoyment? I know it sounds like a simple question but it’s not always so simple on our end.

Tompkin: I am understanding for a lot of people are finding they are bored and frustrated and overwhelmed with the shift and they are finding there is very little items that still give them pleasure. It is a matter of seeking in the moment what it is that you feel like doing. The little urges that you give yourself. If you were to review some of the Elias’ sessions, my friend has mentioned in the past many, many times if you were to look at, for example, you wake in the morning and you wish to consume a cup of coffee. You then have your cup of coffee and then you feel like going for a walk then you go for a walk.

Now, all of these little urges, following the urges, doesn’t necessarily fit into a working day. So finding some sort of employment that does fit in with your belief and the way you live that you also enjoy is a great help. Then pursuing hobbies that excite you. If you don’t have any hobbies that excite you, you could explore just particular topics, for example. Then this might lead to a hobby.

Jason: Okay.

Tompkin: You can determine what excites you, by what grabs your attention in the moment, what makes you want to explore and delve deeper, what makes you smile or spontaneously laugh. There may be subjects that you move through rapidly but you are still engaging that and learning from that and expanding and enjoying play while you were doing it.

Jason: I do enjoy the-

Tompkin: Do you have any things that excite you or interests you that make you feel lighthearted?

Jason: I really enjoy this material about shifting.

Tompkin: Very well! Then, for you, it is a form of play, my friend, and exploring the best of it. You can pick up different topics and explore different avenues. It can take you many, many places. Engaging myself or Elias or even others that are coming on to the forefront will offer you that opportunity to delve into the subjects that you find greatly interesting, really interesting. The meat of the topic, shall we say, that you can grab on to and get excited about. That is a form of play or learning it itself.

Jason: That’s great. The next question I wanted to ask was related to some things you had said in an earlier session. You made it sound so easy and simple and I believe it is. It’s just not immediately … I’m not able to see it that way immediately from where I am. You were talking about abundance and someone that had closed the door to that and they need to be conscious of what they would actually like and in their day to day movements. Believe that you have everything that you need, that when you open the fridge there is enough. When you look at the wardrobe, there is enough. Can you talk a little bit about that? This adopting of another belief?

Tompkin: What part of that are you struggling with, my friend? For that is an enormous subject.

Jason: Okay. I guess, it’s unfamiliar and that’s mainly what it is. It just strikes me as so easy but the idea of putting it into practice for more than a couple of seconds seems quite challenging.

Tompkin: Okay. May I suggest that you begin in baby steps, so you pay attention to your thoughts. For often your thoughts are a form of feedback to what you are telling yourself. It is as simple as, oh, you go to make coffee in the morning and you look in the cupboard and say, “I am low on coffee. I need more coffee.” You could just look and say, “Oh, I have enough coffee,” for you do for that particular cup. And you can make a mental note, “I shall acquire some more easily.” It is simply about not observing lack but observing what you actually do have with that particular example. If, for example … Tell me, what is it you would like to create and I can give you a specific exercise as that can be fun!

Jason: I mean, financial, more financial abundance is always fun.

Tompkin: People always look to the money for they think that the money will give them some experience. This is the wrong way around. Money is very easy to create. What is the experience you wish to create with the money?

Jason: Interesting. Interesting.

Tompkin: Ask the question differently.

Jason: I guess, I would like to develop initially the confidence to put this into practice so that I don’t feel tied to a job. Not necessarily to quit the job right away but to feel that it’s a choice rather than a need.

Tompkin: Okay. You are seeking more relaxation in your life?

Jason: Sure, sure.

Tompkin: You still have not identified what it is you would like to experience. For example … I will give you an example. My friend does not mind sharing aspects of her life, so I will share one of hers. She had been encumbered. We’re talking about Niella. She had been encumbered with her back problem, with her business dropping off because she could not work and caused some pain. What she most desired was a holiday for she loves to travel. She had not had any travel for many years and she was missing this. She was completely focused on how do I earn enough money to travel and yet this is not the experience that she was seeking. She was seeking the experience and the richness that travel gives her, the relaxation, the learning, the exploration.

It’s not the money she was seeking to have because at that particular time, she was not able to earn what she used to, so just shifted her focus and focused on where she wanted to go and what she wanted to experience when she was there. This year she has manifested a trip to Tasmania, Scotland and last week, Fiji.

Jason: Okay. Putting that into perspective, I would like …

Tompkin: She only paid for one trip.

Jason: I would like more time to spend in nature, outdoors. More time, physical activity. I know that I’m happiest when I’m active and particularly in nature but …

Tompkin: Okay. You could combine the two, couldn’t you?

Jason: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Tompkin: So….You would like to spend a significant portion of your time being physically active whilst enjoying the beautiful surround of nature?

Jason: Yes.

Tompkin: Okay. This can be your goal. All you need to do is simply take five minutes a day and picture yourself doing the activity of your choice in nature. You could view on your computer nature scenes. You could begin researching places within nature you would like to explore. The very act of beginning to research where you would like to go, what you would like to explore will bring that into your life. Now, having said that, you need to also grasp the concept that you may enjoy that without having to sacrifice something, for you have an underlying belief system that there is a give and take. You may receive this into your life without having to sacrifice or give anything that you consider hardship. That includes money. Accept the challenge for you to explore……. two areas near you where you could explore nature while being physically active and it costs you nothing.

Jason: The two areas that costs me nothing, is it that it costs me nothing me now or is this that … another is if there’s some activities that I like to do outdoors but they do cost money. Is that something not to focus on or …

Tompkin: Why don’t you start with, say, walking? Walking is free. The air is free. The nature is free. Perhaps you could choose two areas you wish to explore that involves walking and it costs you nothing.

Jason: Is that part of the visualization or was that …

Tompkin: This is just a playful exercise that you may engage where you are practicing, drawing to you the activities that you wish and-

Jason: Okay, so in addition to the visualization.

Tompkin: You may be appreciating of the experience and realize it was there all the time and you attracted that to you without it costing you something.

Jason: Interesting. Interesting.

Tompkin: You also need to look at how you value your time for you have some beliefs operating there where time is valued but also it is seen as having a monetary value put on it. So even though you are spending time doing something you enjoy, you would still see it as time costing you. If you own your own time, it’s yours to do whatever you wish. See it as a gift to yourself that you require to be mentally and physically well. It will change your view of the monetary value you put on time.

Jason: Okay.

Tompkin: Those are two simple things you can start with that will assist you in shifting how you attract abundance in your life. I would also suggest that you actually define what abundance means to you.

Jason: That’s actually … That is a great suggestion.(both laughing)

Tompkin: For everyone has a different definition. For example, my friend’s definition of abundance has nothing to do with money. It is when she feels secure in her environment where she can provide herself with food. She’s self-sustaining and can provide herself with the pleasure of the company of friends, gardens. To her, that is abundance. To you, abundance is completely different. By defining to you what abundance is, then you will know what it is you are focusing on and what it is you wish you attract to you to feel abundant.

Jason: I think, my most significant goal is to develop confidence in my ability to create simply through my attention.

Tompkin: This is what you all are striving for but it is also what you were also all doing already. HA HA HA(both laughing) It is merely a matter of recognizing that you are already doing it.

Jason: Right.

Tompkin: You just need to be more aware on how grand of a scale you are actually creating. For you, do you enjoy sci-fi?

Jason: The genre?

Tompkin: As in the … yes, the television or movies or entertainment called sci-fi.

Jason: Yes, some of it.

Tompkin: All right. Are you familiar with shows that display a hologram room?

Jason: Yes.

Tompkin: Okay. You could do this for five minutes a day and it would be most effective for you. Not necessarily everybody else but for you because it is in line with your beliefs.

Jason: Okay.

Tompkin: Okay. Are you ready?

Jason: I’m ready.

Tompkin: This is what to do. You picture an empty hologram room. It’s got thick, black walls with the entrance where you walk in and on it is a grid that is lit up with lines. These lines are energy. This hologram room, you must remember, you have created, right? So you walk in and you say, “Computer, create this.” It could be A, B, C, D. A new room, what you want to see from the bottom up. Remember when you say, “Computer, build this,” you are talking to yourself.

Jason: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Tompkin: There is no magic computer in the skies that’s going to build this. It is you. Okay? You can call it whatever you like. You can say, “Jason, build this.” You can give it a different name. You can call it your essence name or you can just simply say, “Computer.”

You build it in your visualization from the bottom up, piece by piece by piece. Then you jump in. You jump into you hologram and you experience it emotionally and you allow that energetic emotion to surge from your body and feel what it is like to do what you just created. Then when you are done, you say, “Close program.” But you know when you have closed the program that you have just created that in your life. Then when you walk outside your dwelling. Look around you and realize you are in a giant hologram and you have created all of that. Now, how amazing is that?

Jason: What was that last line you said?

Tompkin: How amazing is that?

Jason: Yes. Yes. In fact, that’s where I am, I believe, right now, is I do do experiential visualizations as Elias calls them but it’s also addressing the belief systems that is the work, so to speak, the reactions that lead me to go-

Tompkin: Okay! Okay. Firstly, you have some issues you are expressing regarding work. You want to play. This is another exploration mission for you: Put on your backpack. You’re going on a journey and it’s fun. You are going to experience what is it like to look at yourself from outside your shell to inside. You can take it apart piece by piece. However, doing the hologram room is much more fun. However, you have to allow for those feeling. I cannot express this enough.

Building it in your mind visually is one thing but unless you jump in and experience it, it’ll be much slower. This is why I encouraged you to play a game with yourself. Find two places near you, where it costs you nothing, to go and play, doing an activity that you enjoy. This is why I suggested walking for your brain already comprehends this costs nothing.

Jason: In that visualization, you mentioned the importance of the feeling aspect of it, experiencing of it. How important is actual … the visualization. Meaning, after you’ve done the visualization, many times you can bring the concept to your mind and then reaffirm that feeling without going through the whole visualization.

Tompkin: Yes, this is what I’m suggesting. You build this visualization first and then you jump in and experience the feeling. The feeling then can be re-experienced and drawn upon it anytime, for you have already experienced that and you know what it’s like. You can even then apply that further when you are on your walk in the place that you found during your exercise and apply that feeling and then you are manifesting it there also. Because the more familiar you are with that joy, in that play, in that feeling, the more you will recognize it and draw it to you and find more and more and more and more scenarios where you are enjoying it more. You may even look at places within your employment where you can manifest that same feeling once it is familiar.

Jason: That’s the feeling of joy and fun?

Tompkin: This is up to you. When you are in your hologram that you are creating of your ideal scenario where you would like to have, you expressed: more time in nature and being able to enjoy the physicalness of it. It is about the feeling that you define as enjoyment and you manifest that feeling. I would describe it as a rushing giddiness or joyousness for this is how most people experience play. They have that sensation of a giggle, almost being on the surface because they are so engage and happy in what they are doing. They are often smiling and feeling lighter and bubbly and there is a lack of anxiety. There is no focus on worry or topics that they find disquieting.

This is when they’re experiencing joy in the moment. Everyone experiences the feelings slightly different it is about getting you to recognize what it is you wish to experience and then recreating that feeling in other scenarios so you can do it again and again and again.

Jason: Are you able to read my energy now?

Tompkin: I am.

Jason: I am attempting ha ha ha to bring a bit of this playfulness to my experience.

Tompkin: There is some there and you are able to express it somewhat when you wish. However, some of this feeling is forgotten to you. For you have engaged much focus on having your nose to the grindstone, shall we say.

Jason: Yes.

Tompkin: This feeling you lose often for your thoughts are engaging other topics and are often overriding and not allowing yourself to really experience that pleasure of feeling. I think building the feeling for you is critical. The more you can build it to the point where your whole body feels like it’s going to explode in joy is a goal you can work for.

Jason: To continue to beat this into submission, like let’s say I’m home now like I am and I wish to experience this feeling, let’s call it and a practice sounds like I’m holding my nose to the grindstone still but …

Tompkin: No. See yourself putting on your backpack and going on a journey for this also is in line with what you wished to do. You are going on a journey of self-exploration. Why should it be any less fun than walking through the forest?

Jason: Can you give some advice on even like just being in my house, let’s say, and it’s the evening and bringing this energy moment to moment?

Tompkin: What brings you relaxation in your environment? What brings you a smile? What makes you stop and just relax in your environment?

Jason: In my home environment? I’m not even sure.
(laughs) It’s not funny but it’s like we go on vacation for that.

Tompkin: Okay. Perhaps you are not recognizing what is within your own environment that could give you some excitement, some lighter energy, some relaxation where you can just simply sit and smile and enjoy the moment. As if you were on the beach with your feet up, for example. That same feeling can be recreated in your home if you find something within your home that you enjoy. If not, I suggest you start with the two exercises that I gave you for this is easily recognizable by yourself as already joyous. Then you can build on that feeling. You can then do your hologram exercise, building that feeling. Then when you’re experiencing it in your home environment, no matter how briefly, whether it’s eating a piece of toast or having something to drink. You’ll start to recognize it and you can pause and enjoy it, whether it is looking at a picture on your computer or looking out your window and noticing something … It can be the smallest thing.

Jason: Interesting. Very interesting.

Tompkin: This is about noticing. However, you need to remember the feeling first.

Jason: Right.

Tompkin: So You can put on your backpack and go on a small journey and find two exercises that are fun and hold that feeling within yourself and then apply it to your hologram room and then you can start applying it all over your life. Then…… what you find is you will attract more of that to you and it may have nothing to do with your work or it may overlap into your work. How nice would that be? You will realize that you did not require one penny to generate all the things you wanted to do.

Jason: This is the way to create positive surprises?

Tompkin: Absolutely!! It’s about pausing and allowing yourself to remember that feeling and let it flow through you. That is what gives you the pleasure.

Jason: Because I found it in the past but it’s often …

Tompkin: It’s been forgotten.

Jason: It’s been what?

Tompkin: Forgotten.

Jason: Forgotten or I did it accidentally or not intentionally or …

Tompkin: As a child, you were in this state a great deal of the time.

Jason: I made a conscious decision to believe what I believe.

Tompkin: It was so natural to you that you were not even aware that there was any other way to be except for when you were experiencing learning and growing issues and corrections from adults then, obviously, this was uncomfortable.

Jason: Right. I remember making the conscious decision at some point to switch.

Tompkin: You did, you did. What you did not realize at the time was is that you could have maintained that state into your work. Work does not have to be hum drudgery.So perhaps looking at what your definition of work is… may help.

Jason: I do know there are-

Tompkin: But I suggest you do that later. Do that later for your focus needs to be on play and joy.

Jason: Okay.

Tompkin: Look at the work later. Let it flow into the work first then it will be easier for you.

Jason: Okay. Let me think here for a moment.

Tompkin: I am going to enjoy observing you on your journey, on your adventure. I will be encouraging you. So How shall I do this? Pay attention to……… small creatures.

Jason: To what?

Tompkin: Small creatures.

Jason: Small creatures.

Tompkin: Yes. When you are out on your excursion, pay attention to small creatures. That will be a reminder to keep a smile on your face and enjoy the day.

Jason: Okay.

Tompkin: And that I am encouraging you, we’re all encouraging you.

Jason: No, I understand it’s … I feel like this is a big step for me. Ha Ha … Not that I have any doubts in it. It’s just I am … My normal approach would be to be more serious about it. Try really, really hard, work at it.

Tompkin: To try really, really hard takes away the fun when it is so easy and you are trying to incorporate your feelings.

Jason: I understand.

Tompkin: Now go and … Without going into too much detail, I am going to give you an example but it is one that will not work for you at this point but it may bring understanding as to why I am giving you the exercises as I am. There came a point in my friend’s life where she does not want to work so many hours and she was working from 8:00 in the morning till 8:00 at night and was experiencing burnout. Until she shifted her belief and set a goal that she could earn the same amount of money only working three days a week and she did. She decided Okay. I’m going to earn the same amount of money only doing three days a week and she did.

It was by shifting and making it a fun game. This will not work for you at this point but it may do in the future if you can recognize the feeling of play and allow it to flow again and allow it to creep in like a cloud or a fog permeates all areas of your life. You could wake up out of bed every morning saying, “How can I have fun today?”

Jason: That actually reminds me of … There was a period where I was doing a lot of meditation a few years ago, more than I prefer to do and which is why I stopped. Things were flowing very well and I recall at the time that a lot of things were coming into my life very easily, a new job offers, more money, a lot of things that I wanted. I recall even like going on the job interview and I don’t know why or what but I was using the word “fun” an awful lot. It was just important at that time. I don’t think I realized the importance of that aspect of it.

Tompkin: At that particular time, you were still connected with that. It is in a shorter time frame that you have become disconnected and a bit disillusioned. So this is why I want you to connect to that feeling again.

Jason: Yeah, because I’ve been trying to-

Tompkin: Getting out and doing it.

Jason: My goal was not to rely on doing two or three hours of meditation a day in order to have a fun life.

Tompkin: I agree, For that becomes work and that defeats the whole purpose.

Jason: Right.

Tompkin: If you find meditation helpful, it should come spontaneous, when you feel like it, when you have the impulse to do it, you sit down and do it. It shouldn’t be something you schedule because then it’s not fun. It’s work.

Jason: It sounds like … Now, you mentioned setting the goal like a fun game to make the same amount of money by working three days a week. It sounds like I could use that with smaller intentions as a way of practice and perhaps trying to bring that, knowing that I’m bringing that playful energy into it.

Tompkin: At this point, I would say no, for the absolute most critical priority, the most critical thing you need to do is experience the feeling. Again, write this down. The most critical thing you need to do is experience the feeling.

Jason: Experience the feeling.

Tompkin: The feeling and reengage it, experience what it feels like to flow through your body and build on it until it permeates all over your body and your mind and starts to creep into your life. Do the exercise I suggested with the engaging nature because it is something you choose to really enjoy. Then do the hologram when you feel like it. It does not have to be every night because that makes it work. When you get excited and you want to visualize something in your hologram and it could be anything and get excited about it and jump in there and then allow yourself that feeling at the end.

For example, this is an example, say, you build the imagery of bungee jumping. Experience is like that actually. Jump off the bridge at the end and go “woohoo” all the way down and then finish. Whence you have remembered that feeling then we may discuss other techniques to bring that to you for … for you, it will be skipping stones or skipping steps if you miss this particular, critical point. It’s a starting point, an exciting, leaping off point for you. BUT a necessary one.

Jason: Okay. Okay.

Tompkin: Then later down the road, there will be many ways you could engage, access, plugging it in, utilizing it for manifesting your hologram more instantly … in any way you wish … because that feeling will be, it may generate spontaneously at a drop of a hat, to the point where it feels like your whole body is vibrating with it.

Jason: It’s interesting that the flow of this conversation is going in a different direction than I expected in so now I’m …

Tompkin: Ha Ha!!!I love that. I do that all the time because I choose to not wish to experience the tedious and the boredom and I love surprising people. However, you are also manifesting that so you needed something interesting to intrigue you, to get you rolling again and thus you have also take a different line of avenues to explore, have you not?

Jason: Yes, yes.

Tompkin: It’s fun.

Jason: When you talk about … Do you find that you can drift from moment to moment finding what is pleasurable?

Tompkin: Okay….This is easier done for most people on a holiday.

Jason: Okay.

Tompkin: They have taken away the time pressures of work. Many people of retirement begin to actually recognize they could have applied this to their whole life. When you wake in the morning, you have your day stretching before you and there are no phone calls to make, no e-mails to answer, no bills to pay, no demands on your time. You have that day stretching before you and you wait and go, “Hmm, ah, I think, I will have breakfast” Then while you’re eating breakfast, you look outside and notice you may have a garden that needs tending or a pet that needs walking. These are just examples. You may notice that it’s a beautiful day outside and you wish to go for a walk. So you simply get dressed and you go for a walk and then when that is done, oh, I’m hungry. I wish to have a nice meal. I don’t feel like cooking, think I will go out for lunch. You see how it flows?

Jason: If someone does that without being influenced necessarily by limiting beliefs to not do it then they would create what they want?

Tompkin: They create in the moment exactly what they want for they are actually engaging what they want simultaneously while they are creating it at exactly that moment. There’s no time delay.

Jason: I guess, what I would say is, they don’t need to worry about generating an income if they were doing everything they wanted moment to moment.

Tompkin: The worry regarding generating an income comes from the belief that … it’s a mass belief that is applied generically throughout your world of….. you need to have money to buy food, money to survive, money to function so therefore you work. Work has become a tedious humdrum experience and people have experienced more pressure to produce more for they feel they need more.
Whereas, if you are actually focused on the experience, you would like to engage, you may find that your work may change and the day to day items that give you joy cost you nothing. So therefore, your whole life will begin to shift t and I understand this is difficult to fathom given the current dogma that people are offering and living in but you may start to recognize this in small ways. This applies to everyone.

I can give you an example. My friend decided that … she didn’t have a lot of money but she wanted to have a community interaction with people regarding abundance. So…she started asking our friends “who is interested in vegetable gardening”. She herself a large vegetable garden and asked around who wanted to share. As a result, she met new people who were really interested in growing and producing. Then within their own little group, they then were able to swap, trade what they needed. Suddenly, she found her freezer full of lamb, her fridge full of vegetables that she did not have to produce and she was giving away items that she found were in abundance that she did not need and this gave other people what they needed.

It is what is known as the barter system. However, in this scenario, she created a small realm of community that provided needs that interested her. This could be applied not just to gardening but to anything.

Jason: That’s actually a great example. Gardening would not be my choice but I can understand the idea.

Tompkin: Yes, and gardening, the food, represents the basic necessities of life.

Jason: Right.

Tompkin: While she was attracting people into her life that had similar interests she then noticed that people met her other needs. For example, there were people that knew how to get the water tank to supply the garden and it just perpetuated in a giant snowball. This can be applied to activities that you wish to enjoy. It does not have to be the same as with her example. Your example can be anything. There is no work in that entire scenario. For all of it, it’s fun for her.

Jason: Right. Right. What’s your philosophy on giving predictions?

Tompkin: Predictions are impossible in some ways but in other ways they are not. For example, if your energy is moving in a certain direction, I am able to read where that currently is going and you must realize that you are steering that ship. So you may change that in a nanosecond by simply you changing your focus. As far as world events, I do discuss this with people for there are things set in motion as you aware. There are things that are happening on your planet and will continue to happen and these I am able to discuss for they are already set in motion and the earth is actually making those changes now and there is no coming back from that. However, it may shift and move and become different with mass focus.

Jason: The one question that I had was there was some references from other channeled material and this is not from Elias because he doesn’t usually put dates.

Tompkin: dates are very difficult for us both.

Jason: Okay. There was predictions about this fall and some sort of acceleration or …

Tompkin: An acceleration in the shift, do you mean? Is that what you’re referring to?

Jason: I think so. The way I interpreted the message is probably meaning global changes or so on.

Tompkin: Okay. Perhaps share with me what it is that you …

Jason: I believe it was … The predictions were very vague themselves that there would be evidence produced that would lead to a mass shift in consciousness or changes in beliefs. My thought was that it could be that more people would be convinced of global changes, that maybe there was some sort of flooding or something occurring.

Tompkin: Hmm. With this particular prediction that you were referring to, the individual was actually tapping into, I guess, you could say, the fact that there is mass shift in consciousness. This has been happening for some time as you know and it will continue to accelerate for you are expanding at an incredible rate. The earth is also changing an incredible rate. So your impression is partially correct in that there will be massive changes on the planet. As for some mass event occurring this autumn, there will be many, many mass events all over the world and they are not new.

If you turn on your world news, you will see that they are continually happening everywhere. People are experiencing them differently. The shift isn’t suddenly going to accelerate or decelerate and there is currently at this point no mass annihilation if that’s what you’re concerned about.

Jason: No, no. I was … I merely wanted to get your response… In other words, it took me a long time in talking with Elias to develop the ability to come up with questions that led to very satisfying answers or …

Tompkin: What is it specifically you would like to know and I will attempt to answer it?

Jason: I know that but, for example, we addressed this whole playfulness and bringing the joy in. And you’ve answered it very eloquently but I can’t go to anything beyond it until I actually do it.

Tompkin: Oh, AHH for you are seeking an instant solution to that problem but, my friend, you have created the problem and problems are not undone overnight. But if you view it as play, it will not be work.

Jason: Right, right, right.

Tompkin: It will be fun.

Jason: Right.

Tompkin: And you will not be skipping stones. You will be engaging yourself in a way that is amusing and I assure you, you will find some pleasure in that. It will then seep into all areas in your life and you will stand back years from now and recognize that, that it has made and difference if you choose to engage that, for you will create it. You are perfectly capable of doing it. You are capable of doing it quite quickly. It is merely a matter of remembering who you are and what brings you joy and then what that joy feels like.

Jason: Okay.

Tompkin: I am actually feeling quite sad that you have forgotten that, for it is a part of your essence so completely that it’s almost as if you have denied that portion of yourself, so I will be greatly assisting you in this, my friend. For, the state you are currently in, I assure you, is not natural to who YOU are.

Jason: I have this impression because I had … as a child, I remember my parents telling me that I was happy-go-lucky.

Tompkin: Very much. Very, very much …

Jason: From their perspective, I never wanted to listen ha ha and follow the normal procedures and so they had a tough time with it for a while. Then I remember getting tired of all the disagreements or the clashes and so I think that makes sense if that is … I don’t view it negatively. I mean, I think that’s my journey is to perhaps go back to that.

Tompkin: I would agree. If you were … It is your choice of course and if you were to pursue this, I am happy to assist you on that journey. More than happy and I will be lending you energy to work that for you will be having your rediscovery of yourself and this in itself will assist your shift and it will assist you in your expansion and it will also bring joy to many others around you for it is contagious. HE HE.

Jason: Do you have any advice for … for example, I think of my children. I think my son is somewhat similar to me and I think that he seems to have a little bit more of that playfulness than perhaps my daughter naturally. Just advice on for being of assistance to them.

Tompkin: Perhaps you could include them in your playful adventures for they will be a demonstration to you on letting go and just running with joy. For children do that now. Your son still allows that to flow freely, for he does not limit it. So…Doing some activities alone and also activities with your children creating more fun for all of you would be most beneficial for your entire household.

Jason: I do do that somewhat, right?

Tompkin: Somewhat. However, there is limitation based on the limitations you have set regarding time.

Jason: The limitations regarding fun? Is that because of time?

Tompkin: Regarding time.

Jason: Time, yeah. Yeah, I know.

Tompkin: That will be your next journey, my friend. I suggest you keep it simple. Keep it simple and focus on what we have discussed and then you will find some of the other issues fall away completely for they will not need to be even evaluated or looked at for they will be inconsequential. The issues will disappear.

Jason: Okay. I believe that.

Tompkin: Oftentimes, if you take the first step, the other steps do not need to be done because you’re already there but it took doing the first step, to actually recognized that those other steps are not required.

Jason: Right, but if you’re looking at it from a position of lack and then it looks like it’s a …

Tompkin: An enormous undertaking when it is actually not.

Jason: Right.

Tompkin: It’s more a state of … What you are seeking, my friend, is a state of being the majority of the time. This costs nothing. However, there are some … There is a step you need to do to remind yourself, and then it will start to deepen the areas of your life and your children will be a great demonstration to you of what that feeling is like.

Jason: Okay.

Tompkin: Is there anything else you wish to discuss today?

Jason: I’m thinking about that now. It feels … I feel very, very satisfied with this. I’m actually very excited to work with it.

Tompkin: Oh, I’m glad! That little excitement that you have. Grasp that and hold on to it and run with it, my friend.

Jason: Because this is certainly a different focus than Elias, who I love dearly and appreciate greatly. But it’s a different perspective … not that he doesn’t talk about playfulness but certainly doesn’t …

Tompkin: This is why we are both assisting people for he has his intent, and I have mine. We are completely different in our roles and thus we make a good team.

Jason: And, you said there’ll be others?

Tompkin: There will. There will be Lawrence and Twila who will be assisting in the not too far future.

Jason: Are there people out there that are practicing their interactions with them at this point?

Tompkin: Yes, there are. These people have active on the Elias forum for years as you have … they are going through the same struggle, my friend has, in her interaction with an energy exchange wondering, “What about this? What about that?” For it is a new journey and it is all very scary and somewhat terrifying and may or now just starting their journey. We are offering them much love and support for they too will join our team and offer something completely unique as I do to Elias as Elias does to I. We both have some …

Jason: Okay. Very interesting. All right. Tompkin, I think we’re very close to the session ending and I actually want to end here because I don’t want to force any questions and I feel like …

Tompkin: Very well.

Jason: … that is for me to practice or to play with what you’ve given and then I’ll have a lot of questions.

Tompkin: As you wish and this is a good beginning, I think. It has been an absolute pleasure, my friend, and I am glad that we are leaving the session with some feelings of excitement and joy for this is your step. I’m glad that you have been successful in engaging my company and I look forward to hearing the results of your playfulness.

Jason: Thank you, Tompkin. I look forward to speaking to you again as well.

Tompkin: Excellent! Then we shall chat again and until then, my friend, I will be lending you energy.

Jason: Goodbye.

Tompkin: Goodbye.