Chats with Tompkin


Transcripts March 8, 2016

Kerry #1 (March 2016)

“Sacred site.”

“Opening your awareness to opportunities.”

“Follow the simple exercise of looking at what gives you pleasure in small moments in the day.”

“Guilt is a waste of energy.”

“If you look at your reality, you have created all of it and I mean all of it.“

“Anger is a sign that you are being self depreciating.”

“Everything that exists, exists now. All of it is there. You simply turn your head and see a new you.”


Participants: Tara (Niella) and Kerry.

TOMPKIN: Good afternoon and how are you today?

KERRY: I’m fine Tompkin. Thank you for coming and thank you for meeting me.

TOMPKIN: It’s a pleasure as always.

KERRY: Thank you. I appreciate it.

TOMPKIN: And what shall we discuss?

KERRY: I’d like to please just clarify a couple of things, that if you recall our last conversation that we talked about?

TOMPKIN: Very well.

KERRY: We did talk about my house to some extent and you gave me the advice that I should move within six to twelve months. I thought about it afterwards you know and I thought I really like living here and I know there is a negative fellow that lives underneath and I know he knocks things out of my hands and he knocks things off the shelves and I know he is around and I know he doesn’t want me and I did say to him the other day, please be assured that I am not going to be here forever. So I don’t know whether that makes any difference but I was wondering why you had that urgency of six to twelve months and I do trust that it is necessary to move because yes in the long term I do need to move.

TOMPKIN: I would like to express that timeframes where I am are most difficult to determine. I was suggesting a shift from that residence.
For you, although you like residing there, have not found it to be beneficial financially for you and there will be some planetary changes that are coming and they are coming quite rapidly that will be affecting you there. And this being that resides there is not so much a being as it is a movement of energy. And it has always been a movement of energy in this area that was recognized a long time ago by the Aboriginals.

Now; these aboriginals were treating this area as transitory.
And it is transitory because it is a fluid place whereby people should not stay static. It is there as a hunting ground or a pass through site and it is not meant to be inhabited.

For years and years ago before there were settlers in this entire valley it use to flood and it was what is called a water plane. So the waters would swell with great intensity and completely cover the entire Ipswich Brisbane Valley as far out as the ranges and it would be completely filled with water. The aboriginals knew this and the floods that have been experienced in the past few years are minor compared to floods that will occur in the future. However, I am not saying this to cause fear, for the dams will control some of this.

Now; your home is on a transitory place along the river which means that the river will move faster in these points. It is a sacred site, so it was not meant to be inhabited so therefore the energy is fast. It is not settled, so it can be quite discomforting to people.

As far as for your best financial gain, the area that you are moving your own energy in is forward but not with this residence.

KERRY: Okay.

TOMPKIN: Does this answer your question?

KERRY: Thank you very much, it does yes.


KERRY: Yes, I appreciate it. Thank you.
So that touches a little bit on one other thing that I really would like to ask you about is my innate, inherent and unconscious energy or tendency or automatic response to be scarcity minded rather than abundance minded and to be self depreciating rather than a little bit more confident. Can you you give me some help or some advice or some pointers as to how I can shift? Because the reason I am saying this is my friend Michelle lent me her son’s car and it was lovely to drive around, it is a very expensive car and it was lovely to drive around in and it sort of made me feel that yes I can be bigger and brighter and better and wider and fuller and deeper but my psyche is to be smaller and more humble and less expecting of success. How do I shift it?

TOMPKIN: Firstly, let me express that you are closed off to the opportunities presented and you do not do this intentionally at this point. So I would say opening your awareness to opportunities as they present themselves would be step number one. Also focusing on what it is you want. Perhaps if you write it down. Picture it.

Now; when you were driving this nice car, this was an opportunity to pretend it was your car.


TOMPKIN: And this is a good exercise to do, for if it’s a new car you wanted for example, then you would have attracted that and you did. Only it was not your car.

KERRY: (Chuckles). And when I had to give it back I felt quite offended. (Chuckles).

TOMPKIN: Yes and this is that closed off bit that I am discussing.

KERRY: Okay.

TOMPKIN: So, you do have a belief in abundance but you have closed the door to that. So, you merely need to be conscious of what it is you actually would like. And in your day to day movements, believe that you have everything that you need.

KERRY: Yeah.

TOMPKIN: When you open the fridge, there is enough. When you look in your wardrobe there is enough. When you look at your dogs, there is certainly enough. So, if you start focusing on abundance, then you will begin to attract that. But if you remain closed when it is in your face you will not see it. So it is just a matter of allowing the opportunities to present themselves and then you simply open the door and accept them.

KERRY: Okay.

TOMPKIN: I would also look at your belief system regarding whether you deserve.

KERRY: Yes, yes.

TOMPKIN: For some reason you feel that you deserve less and this is rather absurd for you deserve just as much as anyone else and you can manifest whatever you like. And there is no this person deserves more or this person’s worked harder, there is none of that. That is relevant. It is simply what it is you want? Shall you manifest it? Shall you accept it when it is actually there.

KERRY: So is that okay, because you know I grew up with so many people around who had so much less and there are people around, that’s why I give away all my commission or not all I mean I’m regularly giving away my pay to people who are struggling or whatever and making contributions to what I feel is other people’s welfare to get them across the line. Sometimes I’m disappointed and I feel that they could have done it without my contribution but nevertheless, it’s not a bad thing to do. But is it like you said when we were talking last time about the cattle are in a sort of subtle agreement to be part of the meat industry so am I sort of being the world’s problem solver and really and truly I don’t have to be. I deserve it anyway. Does that sound complicated?

TOMPKIN: No I am understanding what you are saying and generosity is fine as long as it does not cost you your integrity or your sense of self worth or does not come from a place of have to.


TOMPKIN: Generosity is in your nature. It always has been and people do recognize it. There have not been many that take advantage of that. They are faithful. However you should not leave yourself short, which you are realizing is important for the stage of life that you are at, you will require some stability.

Now; having said that, you could generate more if you wished to. And this would not mean that you would have to be busier, this would not mean that you have to work harder, you simply have to do an exercise to prove to yourself that you can generate more without working harder. And it’s simply shifting your focus, like blinders on a horse, you are facing one direction and not seeing what is outside that scope. And if you merely shift your mind to a new area, then you will see what is within that scope. So simply change what it is you wish to see and those opportunities will already all be there for everything exist all at once. It is already created, you just simply have to choose it. Like picking apples off a tree you can’t see. Once you see the tree they are all there. So I would suggest you play a game.

KERRY: Okay.

TOMPKIN: And make it fun. And keep it light. You could take, let’s see, three apples to remind you of that analogy.

KERRY: Okay.

TOMPKIN: Put them on your kitchen bench and when you feel that you would like to take a bite out of more than one apple, do so. It is not a waste. And it will be challenging for you, for you will have three apples and you know that if you take a bite out of more than one apple it may go to waste. And I say, so what?
So put the apples on the bench and when you are wishing to generate more, take a bite out of more and this will signify to yourself that you are willing to take a bigger chunk of the pie so to speak. A bigger chunk of the apple and it doesn’t matter if the entire apple gets eaten.

KERRY: So if I’ve got three apples on the table with three bites in them, that’s perfectly okay?

TOMPKIN: Perfectly okay.

KERRY: Thank you. (Chuckles).

TOMPKIN: It will feel strange and wasteful and this is shifting your attitude about what you deserve, what is wasteful that never taking more than your share. This will help and when the apples decide to decay, throw them in the bin and get three more.

KERRY: I can give them to the possums.

TOMPKIN: You could give them to the possums and this would be very much in alignment with your generous nature.

KERRY: But then that says the same thing, doesn’t it?

TOMPKIN: Yes it does! It does.

KERRY: That says I’m not wasting it, so it really has to be the other way. I couldn’t give them to the possums, I mustn’t give them to the possums, I must get three more to give to the possums.

TOMPKIN: You could have a whole bag of apples and take a bite out of all of them if you are wishing that much more. It is going to be a signal to yourself.


TOMPKIN: That this is, and if you are comfortable then feed the apples to the possums. So if you say, oh I’ve got enough. I’ve got enough clients, I have enough of everything, then take the apples and feed them to the possums and that’s your signal to stop.


TOMPKIN: And when you are finding, I would like a bit more. That’s okay. Don’t focus on the lack. Focus on how many apples you have to take a bite of.

KERRY: Yes. So you see that’s been my problem. I’ve got a closet full of clothes, I’ve got piles of shoes because for so long I couldn’t buy clothes, couldn’t buy shoes then so you know I’ve got heaps of clothes, heaps of shoes and it’s always a question of oh it’s never that there is enough, it’s that there is more out there.


KERRY: And there’s the feeling of emphasis is on the need to acquire not on the fact that there is abundance.

TOMPKIN: Aha! Perhaps going through your wardrobe and pulling out all that you no longer desire would emphasize to you from the rather large pile, how much you’ve actually had and this would show you that you are in fact living in a state of abundance already.

KERRY: Mmm. Then I have to put them in a box and give them away.

TOMPKIN: You could burn them.

KERRY: Oh no. (Chuckles).

TOMPKIN: I didn’t think so. I didn’t think so. Very well give them away, for you no longer need them and this is saying I no longer need these and I would like to replenish some more.

KERRY: Yes. But the distinction that I’m getting is that with the abundance thing, it’s the need to acquire rather than the thankfulness for having it. There is a schism between those two things.

TOMPKIN: It is seen through the lens of having not enough.

KERRY: Yes, that’s where I’m working out of.

TOMPKIN: And this is a pattern of behavior that is from your youth whereby your parents did struggle and you did struggle and you were constantly trying to focus on having enough and it has become a habit. A habit that is no longer necessary. For you do quite have enough. However there are things you desire and things you wish to do and these don’t necessarily always require money.


TOMPKIN: So perhaps shift it from a financial focus to what do I wish to be doing? What do I wish to be experiencing and focus on an emotional focus. So, what would I feel like if I partook in a holiday, for example, somewhere you’ve always wanted to go. What would that feel like? Hang a picture on your mirror and feel what that emotion would feel like every morning and then you will manifest that experience. And it may be someone takes you there, or you win a trip or you don’t know how it will manifest. But that emotion of that holiday will manifest.

KERRY: Thank you for that and that’s what I understand in my head about moving out of my house that I don’t need to worry about how it will happen because it will happen and it will happen for the right reasons. As you said to me last time, I’ve always been looked after. I’ve never really gone without, never really been sort of stuck.

TOMPKIN: No, you’ve always looked after yourself.

KERRY: Yeah, yeah.

TOMPKIN: And you’ve always managed. And if you choose to be leaving your abode, then I would suggest the best timing is before the year 2018 because there will be much happening, in that timeframe and you are trying to focus on a move forward. A move towards the oceans which I will discuss with you at a later date, for the oceans will be moving towards you. So you do not want to be making a poor choice in that regard, so trust your instinct. Trust your gut, there will be places that will not feel right and it possibly could be because they would not be so welcoming in the future due to flood waters and cyclones which will come all the way down this way.

KERRY: Well you know Tara regularly talks to me about that and she is always on the lookout for where I could live. But yes and we’ve had a couple of conversations about what will be inundated and where places are not going to be so propitious , so she is a good guide like that.

TOMPKIN: She feels the sense of urgency that is a bit of a falsehood in that she is already sensing what is coming before it is happened but she is sensing it as if it’s already happened, so it can feel like a bit of panic.

However I would express that her intuition in this department is quite right, for it is coming and that is why she has been telling herself for the last ten years to hurry up, giddy up, we need to be ready.

KERRY: So from that point of view, I know you’ve had a few sessions with people about self sufficiency and things like that, I guess I’ve never been a good vegetable gardener or a good sort of home supplier or home grower or anything like that. That’s becoming more important is it not?

TOMPKIN: For you, not necessarily. For your area will more be requiring of power. If you have sufficient power, you will be able to cook your food, you will be able to – everything you do in the day involves power.

KERRY: Yes it does.

TOMPKIN: So this will be of utmost importance. The second bit of important information I can impart is to make a community of people who can support you and there will not be food shortages as such. There will be periods where food distribution is interrupted. The real estate in the entire area that you reside, will be affected. Brisbane area, the whole valley will be affected. In that, there will be homes that will have to be reclaimed and there will be a business effect, in that it will affect the monetary flow and economy. So people will be choosing to leave the valley to seek there fortunes elsewhere, to set up their businesses elsewhere where they will not be continually disrupted.

Tara’s business for example will not be doing so well in the future due to flood waters and she will also be choosing to evacuate even though her house will stand unaffected she will choose to move to a better location for her business.

Now having said all this, how will this affect real estate?
Well, you may have to move your district, to higher ground or to areas where people are still interested in buying. So there will be a lull, so I suggest you plan for a lull.

KERRY: I would like not to have to do real estate for so much longer you know, because I’ve been doing it for sixteen years now and there are lots of people who are very lovely to meet and people who are nice to know and people come and go but I feel overwhelmed for so much of the time and my days off are few and far between. And that’s because I allow people to impose on my time and because I allow people to, well I mean it is a lot of work and it’s a lot of intensive work, there is lots of little stuff that takes a lot of time, it’s relationships and that sort of thing and I don’t feel like I want to do it for another ten years you know.

TOMPKIN: I am understanding and this is entirely your choice. You may choose to leave this and it is well within your reach to do so. I suggest that if you do, that you perhaps move in a direction of creating some sort of new hobby or new direction that does please you, so you do not feel so lost when you do choose to leave it.

KERRY: And that’s the thing you know, I don’t feel like my life has an awful lot of meaning. I know I’ve got a lot of activity and got lots of stuff happening and lots of people around and that sort of thing but I don’t have a core sense of meaning. If I stop doing what I’m doing, then I would start thinking about how stupid it is that I’m doing it because you get into bed at night and when that half sort of awake state between sleep and awakeness and you are really confronted with your own realities and so on, I don’t have much of a sense of individual meaning and worth.

TOMPKIN: You are not living the life that you would actually like to be living so perhaps create a collage with your artistic talents and focus on how you would like to see your life evolve, for it is far too short in your timeframe to be frittering it away on activities you do not enjoy.

KERRY: Yes exactly.

TOMPKIN: And your intent is to move in more of flowing direction rather than a rigid one. And if you follow the simple exercise of looking at what gives you pleasure in small moments in the day, you will then make it more of a habit to follow the pleasure and it is like a small breadcrumb that you leave for yourself to move to the next one and the next one and the next one and it will become a pattern change so that you not constantly telling yourself I have to, I have to, I have to.


TOMPKIN: You will then follow pleasure and that will lead you into more of a flow with your natural intent and then this will feel more natural for you, give you more meaning and then you will be able to determine which direction suits you best.

KERRY: Yeah okay, because I am constantly feeling I have to this, I have to do that, I’m always doing things I have to, I don’t do things I want to.

TOMPKIN: I would agree. And that pressure is mounting and it is becoming a problem. For, it is energy that you are generating that does not leave and it merely changes form and it will be affecting of your physical body if some changes are not made. And it is simply, choosing to follow what you want to do in the moment rather than ‘oh no, I can’t do that because I have to do this’ and that is completely unnecessary.

KERRY: It’s counterproductive.

TOMPKIN: Yes, I would agree.

KERRY: Thank you for the last time when I asked you about Wolfie’s eye? Remember, you might not remember why should you remember?

TOMPKIN: Yes, I remember.

KERRY: But his eyes cleared up.

TOMPKIN: Fantastic.

KERRY: It is, thank you. So from that point of view he is not seeing what is there, or not seeing all the possibilities, so I guess this is a little bit more on how I can see those other possibilities.

TOMPKIN: You will find once you start seeking more pleasure and looking at things within your day and your schedule that you actually desire to do, that your pets will settle immensely. For they are also trying to encourage you to be more playful.

KERRY: Yes, I need to take them for walks.

TOMPKIN: Well this is a need to again.

KERRY: Oh yes it is! Isn’t it? Ohh!

TOMPKIN: How about I would like to play with my dogs?
(Both chuckle).

KERRY: See that’s the whole thing. I need to do this, I need to do that, I’ve got to do this, I’ve got to make my bed, I’ve got to be here, this person wants to look at that house and dahdahdah and everything is have to, have to, have to.

TOMPKIN: You can also shift your views about your work and find some pleasure in what you do during the day as well. And then it would shift it into a much more pleasurable career as well. So if you are going to a house that is generally boring and you see yourself as wasting an hour of your time and there goes another hour of your life you cannot get back, view it as, I wonder what interesting people I am going to meet today. Or I wonder what ideas for decorating I can get from this house for when you move. I wonder what I can learn from these clients regarding monetary investment for people are always happy to give free information.

KERRY: (Chuckles). Okay. So turn it around and look at it from the other side.

TOMPKIN: What can I get out of this today that will be fun. What do I enjoy about this? What do I enjoy doing? And you will start focusing more on the pleasure and this will carry over into all areas.

KERRY: Thank you, that’s good. Should I keep on doing open houses like I’m doing? Is that a good thing to be doing?

TOMPKIN: These are not helpful. These are more a form of making it convenient for the public. However, if people really want to see a house, they will partake in it, regardless. I think the main focus should be on contacting people directly and saying, I’ve had something up my sleeve for a while that may interest you and introduce it to them that way. Doing your research as to what people really would like and asking them how can I help you, then you will be able to lead them down that path towards your houses as they come up and keeping track of them in a diary or on a computer will be helpful for then you can take their hand and then put it on the hand of your clients so to speak, so that you join the two together.

It is about bringing people together whereas open
houses is more for sticky (inaudible) and people to gain ideas of their own and gain a sense of what the market is and rarely is their an actual buyer walking through that door.

KERRY: So is it useful to do one or two here and there just to make the contacts with the buyers or because other wise…

TOMPKIN: Oh yes, yes but in the beginning and after they’ve been on the market for a while then…

KERRY: Okay cool.

TOMPKIN: Perhaps it is not an efficient use of your time,

KERRY: Yes, that’s a very big job to try and match people up because I mean yeah…

TOMPKIN: It is but you also have years of experience of bringing people together.

KERRY: Okay, all right, they’re some things I need to work on. Thank you very much for your help and your guidance.

TOMPKIN: You are welcome.

KERRY: I do appreciate it.
And it’s nice that Wolfie’s eyes cleared up. That reminds me, all the time when I look at Wolfie’s face, that (inaudible).

TOMPKIN: Hahaha! It is sort of in your face.

KERRY: (Laughs). Yes, thank you very much Tompkin, I really appreciate your help.

TOMPKIN: Ha! You are most welcome.
Was there anything else you wished to discuss?

KERRY: I don’t think so. I’ve touched on the things that I would have liked, you know this sense of futility and the must dos and the always being pressured and the overwhelmingness and so and so. You told me to make a collage board last time and I haven’t done it yet, so I will do that.

TOMPKIN: And it would be fun.


TOMPKIN: And it would also be a project that you could do in your art group.

KERRY: That’s exactly what I thought just as you said it. (Chuckles).

TOMPKIN: Yes. I sent you that picture and you can then take great pleasure in making it as creative as you like and this will bring you much excitement for you have already set aside this time slot for yourself.

So, you also have a sense of, if you set aside time for yourself then you are wasting time. Since when is yourself a waste of time?

KERRY: Yeah sure, exactly.

TOMPKIN: It is the most important time.

KERRY: I don’t think that consciously, but if thinking that subconsciously, that’s why I let people take over my days off.

TOMPKIN: Absolutely and there is much encouragement on my behalf to tell you to take more than one day off in a row. So if you have two full days off, you will find you can drift form moment to moment, finding what is pleasurable and it will be like the two days could be a moving meditation of seeking joy and pleasure and it will become more habitual and you will find your entire reality will change and become easier and flow better.

KERRY: And then I won’t feel like I can’t move from here because I don’t want to, because I like living here, because that closes me down.

TOMPKIN: Yes and new opportunities will certainly arise and you may pick and choose which one you would like, for there will be many that will suit. But understanding what it is you want first, is the most important thing. So you know when it is staring you in the face.

KERRY: And not feeling guilty about all of that.

TOMPKIN: Yes, I would agree.

KERRY: Thank you.

TOMPKIN: Guilt is a waste of energy.

KERRY: It’s the most destructive emotion, the most destructive form of thinking.

TOMPKIN: It is a unnecessary emotion for there is no right or wrong there is duplicity. So right or wrong are monitored and determined by your belief systems and your internal compass. Every single individual that you attract into your life has a different compass and a different perception completely. So even if you wanted to run through the streets naked, knowing it is completely wrong in your mind, it actually is not wrong. It is a set of defined beliefs you have put on it. And yes you would probably be arrested for you believe it is wrong!

KERRY: (Chuckles).

TOMPKIN: Do you see what my point is?

KERRY: Yes, because truth is relevant to the person who perceives it.


KERRY: But what do you mean by duplicity?

TOMPKIN: Good, bad, right, wrong, male, female, yin, yang.

KERRY: Okay, opposites.

TOMPKIN: Yes. There is only duplicity.

KERRY: Okay. Night and day.


KERRY: Okay, (inaudible). Okay.

TOMPKIN: There is not necessary good and evil, for example. There is for you, a set of beliefs that guide you and to determine good and evil is coming directly from the set of beliefs from which you operate. And much of them could be religious. For many people they are and some of them can even be carried over from past lives.

KERRY: Okay.

TOMPKIN: So it is about determining what is important. And oftentimes, you will find you opened a giant can of worms regarding a certain belief system and then you can look at that.

Now you can never get rid of them but you can move your head like that horse with the blinders and see an apple tree full of apples instead of seeing a tree with no apples. So it is just a matter of shifting your beliefs. So with that belief with the no apples is not working for me I will simply choose the tree with more apples. And this can take some practice but if you don’t identify what’s there, how do you know how to change a focus, if you don’t know what’s operating behind the scenes.

KERRY: Okay, all right I have to think about all of those things because I need to take away that feeling of self defense and that feeling of being caught or trapped and start being a little bit more…


KERRY: Yes and 360 degrees yes.

TOMPKIN: Open to new opportunities.


TOMPKIN: Take your current set of blinders off which are your belief systems and just open up your vision a bit wider and you will see many, many opportunities that have come and may still be there and many, many more that will come. For you will be looking through a different perception.

KERRY: I have to stop being quite so cross eh?

TOMPKIN: Anger is a sign that you are being self depreciating. It is your telephone ringing to say excuse me but you are criticizing yourself. So if you listen to that irritation and stop and say what was I just thinking? You will often realize there was a self-depreciating thought there. An unnecessary one. And it is a reminder from your entire being that it is undeserved. And then you can simply insert new thought here.

KERRY: Okay. Can I ask you a completely left field? Can I ask you about Tony Robins?

TOMPKIN: Very well.

KERRY: He seems to be a man of enormous perception and great talent and skill. Was it useful for me to do his sessions? Would it be useful to do another one?

TOMPKIN: And how did you feel after the first one?

KERRY: Ooh, I think I felt like I was swimming against the tide and up the hill at the same time because I had to work to make myself better and it was going to be really tough.

TOMPKIN: Ahh! Well.

KERRY: There’s my answer.


KERRY: Okay, thanks.

TOMPKIN: I am here to assure you it is neither tough nor hard. It is about simply following your joy and your pleasure in every moment.

KERRY: Yeah. That’s really simple isn’t it.

TOMPKIN: Yes and listening to your street lights red, yellow, green.

KERRY: Okay.

TOMPKIN: And the red is hesitation and anxiety and anger and stop and look at what you’re doing. And the yellow is hesitation and usually when you hesitate there is a reason. There may be a better choice, there may be a better path. You may be hesitating because you really don’t want to do it and follow that. And the green is your joy.

KERRY: Go for it.

TOMPKIN: Yes, paying attention to that makes it all very simple.


TOMPKIN: And believing in yourself. If you look at your reality, you have created all of it and I mean all of it. The trees, the river, the view from your deck, your house, your creatures, you have attracted to you. Your food in your cupboard, the money in your account, your colleagues at work. All of it is a hologram in which you operate that you have created from finite particles of dust and particles to this massive reality that you live in. What an accomplishment.
When you understand that, you will realize how much power you actually have. Those colleagues at work are also living in their own hologram and they have agreed to lend their energy to you. But you have created it nonetheless. What a feat if you look at that!

KERRY: That is enormous, but I can’t get my head around it because and Deepak Chopra writes about this, doesn’t he? This is…

TOMPKIN: Somewhat.

KERRY: Somewhat, okay. When I say I can’t get my head around it, when I look at somebody like Benjamin or Michael Devon or (inaudible) or Mary Ellen or any of those, okay they’ve got their own hologram so am I part of the lending to them?

TOMPKIN: Not necessarily.

KERRY: So they have their reality, I have my reality?

TOMPKIN: This is correct.

KERRY: They are participating in my reality?

TOMPKIN: Yes they are.
You have attracted their energy to you and what interesting characters you have attracted I might add.

KERRY: Okay.

TOMPKIN: So you have attracted these interesting set of characters to your play and they are partaking in your play. And their energy is here because you have requested it.

KERRY: Okay.

TOMPKIN: In their realities they may be doing something completely different. They may be aware of you, some may be actually interacting with you and have memory of that. But everyone creates their own hologram and people that generally agree to share it have known each other in many, many lives before and most people remember some of those lives.
And the veil is significantly thinning so that now people will remember even more. There are people that are remembering all of their lives now. Their future ones too.


TOMPKIN: For time is all happening at once.

KERRY: Yes, well I don’t understand it but I know that time is not linear that time is cubic? Or in some ways stacked on itself.

TOMPKIN: It is a particle flux. It is instantaneous. It is like the big bang if you want to call it that. It is happening all that is, it is now.

KERRY: Okay that’s a really woof! That’s a really different way, this is my play and that is Tara’s play is different from my play but there is a collusion or an interaction or as a …

TOMPKIN: Absolutely my friend so simply draw the script for how you would like to see your play evolve.

KERRY: That’s pretty amazing isn’t it?

TOMPKIN: For you are the playwright.

KERRY: There is millions and millions of plays going on, all superimposed over one another and touching one another and little bits of them being common and …

TOMPKIN: Billions of probabilities. Billions. And every time you alter your own play you create another probability. So there are more of you than you realize actually partaking in probabilities that you wanted to continue. Now picture that.

KERRY: Say that again please?

TOMPKIN: Okay. You have your current play.


TOMPKIN: And in this play you have decided you want a new career.
And you want this career to be a long distance runner. So this part of you goes off and becomes a long distance runner and continues in another probability. So this person is actually in existence doing the long distance running while you are continuing in your other play. Picture thousands of those. So you may have multiple probabilities that you have created.

Often there is an indicator in your life where you feel as if you have no memory of that timeframe. So say when you were young you really wanted to be a ballerina. There was a part of you that perhaps created that probability and it continued and that person grew and evolved and created a play and that probability lived a life. You have continued on a stage as in another life being a real estate agent. Do you understand?


TOMPKIN: So picture these billions of people all these essences with their hundreds of focuses with billions of probabilities. Now that is expansion!

KERRY: It certainly is.

TOMPKIN: It is. And that is all of our intentions.

KERRY: All of our intention? You mean all of us have that intention?

TOMPKIN: All of us as one unified force have the intention of expansion. That is why we’re doing this.

KERRY: Okay. Wow. That’s why you are here.

TOMPKIN: Yes I am here to help people realize they can get some joy out of this tedious task they have set for themselves where people have the view that it has to be difficult or it has to be hard or it’s their morose or it’s boring or oh god why isn’t it working out the way I wanted. All we hear in the heavens is why, why, why, why, why. (Kerry chuckles).
They’re asking the wrong question!

KERRY: So they really isn’t anything fixed is it? It’s all perception. There’s nothing fixed. There is nothing concrete. It’s all flux and flow.

TOMPKIN: Everything that exists, exists now. All of it is there. You simply turn your head and see a new you.

KERRY: Okay. Shoot me. Wow.


KERRY: That’s pretty good.

TOMPKIN: To answer your question, Tony Robins has much to offer, however…

KERRY: That’s okay. It’s irrelevant now. Thank you.

TOMPKIN: Yes. (Both laugh).

KERRY: Okay. Thank you very much.

TOMPKIN: You are most welcome and I have once again enjoyed our chat and my best to your small one that is still with you.

KERRY: My small one that is…

TOMPKIN: Your small creature. I believe he is a fluffy dog. A small dog, he is still with you.

KERRY: Oh that’s Binkyboo? Or is that Bennydog?

TOMPKIN: Bennydog.

KERRY: Bennydog. Bennydog showed me his soul.

TOMPKIN: Bennydog is still with you.

KERRY: Thank you, that’s lovely to know.

TOMPKIN: And he is always at your lap and always at your feet and he will always be with you for you have created that with him.

KERRY: Bennydog came to me with not a whimper. He didn’t cry when he was taken away from his mother, he just settled right in and he and I. He knew exactly what I was thinking and I always felt I knew what he was thinking And when he was so ill, just before he died, he looked at me and I could see right through into his soul. And it was like my Bendog’s always been my most precious soul.

TOMPKIN: It was at that point that you actually joined. Most creatures move on and choose another focus as another creature and they dissipate back into consciousness as particles and then they reconfigure to another creature. They have less choice than essence does but your Benny at that point, locked with your energy and he will forever be with you.

KERRY: Thank you. That’s really lovely. Thank you, that is so nice to hear that because I can feel him.

TOMPKIN: You have not lost him.

KERRY: No, no.

TOMPKIN: This is rare.

KERRY: Is it really?

TOMPKIN: This does not happen very often.

KERRY: He’s my precious boy.


KERRY: All right. Benny and I are off for a new adventure. (Chuckles).

TOMPKIN: Very well my friend and we shall chat later.

KERRY: And thank you. I’m conscious of been egocentric. I’m conscious of being selfish in my conversation but appreciate it, thank you.

TOMPKIN: There is no such thing as being selfish. For you are writing your own play!

KERRY: (Laughs)

TOMPKIN: On that note I would say goodbye.

KERRY: Yeah goodbye. Thank you so much.